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Huntress
Captain
USA
323 Posts |
 Posted - October 30 2003 : 09:37:21 AM
 
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The rest of it is a perfect parody--right down to the camera work--of a slasher picture, as the panicking family tries to escape the seemingly-harmless but nonetheless-horrifying little gigglecreep racing after them on his tiny legs.
I also remember a pretty cool Nike commercial in which a woman is being chased through the woods by a masked, chainsaw-wielding maniac. The woman just keeps sprinting along, hurtling logs, etc., while the maniac huffs and puffs and holds his sides. Eventually, he gives up altogether and there's a caption saying, "Exercise can help you live longer." :-)
-Winnifred Burkle is a monster. A siren, hoping to lure you away from Jasmine and onto the rocks of heresy and despair.-
Edited by - Huntress on October 30 2003 09:40:41 AM
Edited by - Huntress on October 30 2003 09:41:17 AM |
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B-Movie Bodhisattiva
Commander
USA
211 Posts |
Posted - October 30 2003 : 2:34:57 PM
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I also remember a pretty cool Nike commercial in which a woman is being chased through the woods by a masked, chainsaw-wielding maniac. The woman just keeps sprinting along, hurtling logs, etc., while the maniac huffs and puffs and holds his sides. Eventually, he gives up altogether and there's a caption saying, "Exercise can help you live longer."
The was a great commericial. And the funniest part is that it was lobbied against by some feminist groups, for reasons I still can't fathom.
May you live in interesting times. |
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Huntress
Captain
USA
323 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 03:29:34 AM
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The was a great commericial. And the funniest part is that it was lobbied against by some feminist groups, for reasons I still can't fathom.
You've gotta be kidding me! I can only assume it was a slow week. After all, if you're not constantly protesting something, you're in danger of losing your "rebel cool" edge.
If anyone is interested in seeing this horrificly misanthropic pox on all sisterkind, you can download it at http://www.pocketmovies.net/detail_55.html.
Let me know what you think.
-Winnifred Burkle is a monster. A siren, hoping to lure you away from Jasmine and onto the rocks of heresy and despair.-
Edited by - Huntress on October 31 2003 03:30:33 AM
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The Screaming Scallop
Commander
156 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 04:06:39 AM
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Well, compare the concepts between the Nike "Chainsaw" and Sprite "Sun Fizz" commercials. No one takes the threat of a corporate logo coming to life and chasing your kids seriously, but violent attacks on women joggers are, sadly, a fairly common occurance.
Worse, the commercial played the attack "straight"--as if you'd somehow accidentally tuned into a slasher flick--and then, only at the end, tried to blow it off as a gag. If it had aired on something like The Man Show, it probably wouldn't have raised one solitary eyebrow--but Nike's had periods where it hasn't been smart about public relations. They put it on during the morning chat shows.
Now, before somebody starts going off about "political correctness:" just try to picture Coca-Cola doing a funny, funny commercial about aircraft slamming into skyscrapers, or Hershey's making a cute bit about a guy trying to lure a child into a secluded spot with candy. It's all in the point of view, and the difference between "just politically incorrect" and "genuinely offensive" is usually only in who gets pissed off--and how many. (Cross reference the uncle who gets mad at family get-togethers because no one appreciates his "ethnic" humor.) |
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Huntress
Captain
USA
323 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 05:55:04 AM
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Now, before somebody starts going off about "political correctness:" just try to picture Coca-Cola doing a funny, funny commercial about aircraft slamming into skyscrapers, or Hershey's making a cute bit about a guy trying to lure a child into a secluded spot with candy.
Or a funny, funny commercial about men being menaced by guys three times their size. Or a funny, funny movie in which a guy "bronco busts" a nuclear bomb. Hey... wait!
Seriously, though, slasher movies are not even remotely reality-based. Everyone knows this. That's why they're so popular- because the improbability of them is comforting. You can't even haul out the hoary old "violence against women" accusations against this commercial, because more men than women are murdered almost every year. And statistically, men are way more likely to be murdered by a stranger, which is the typical scenario in slasher movies. From whatever angle you approach it, it's just plain silly to work yourself into a lather over something like this.
-Winnifred Burkle is a monster. A siren, hoping to lure you away from Jasmine and onto the rocks of heresy and despair.-
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The Screaming Scallop
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Posted - October 31 2003 : 06:32:13 AM
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Seriously, though, slasher movies are not even remotely reality-based. Everyone knows this. That's why they're so popular- because the improbability of them is comforting. You can't even haul out the hoary old "violence against women" accusations against this commercial, because more men than women are murdered almost every year. And statistically, men are way more likely to be murdered by a stranger, which is the typical scenario in slasher movies. From whatever angle you approach it, it's just plain silly to work yourself into a lather over something like this.
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on those points. It's indeed improbable that Freddy will kill me in my dreams or the undead Jason will rise from the grave and keep coming at me no matter how much firepower I lay on him, but people who have been victims of violence don't give much care for statistics about likelihood. It's like telling the parents of a kidnapped child that the news media blows the numbers of child kidnappings out of proportion.
I don't know if you actually meant that personally, but: I'm not working myself into a lather over anything. I'm just suggesting a different point of view. |
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Huntress
Captain
USA
323 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 08:38:58 AM
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I don't know if you actually meant that personally, but: I'm not working myself into a lather over anything. I'm just suggesting a different point of view.
No, I didn't mean you specifically. I meant the people who felt it was worth the effort to get what is, after all, just a commercial off the air.
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but people who have been victims of violence don't give much care for statistics about likelihood. It's like telling the parents of a kidnapped child that the news media blows the numbers of child kidnappings out of proportion.
I do know what it's like to have tramautic experiences in your past. And believe me, when I say I know, I mean I know. I just like to think that my problems shouldn't be the whole world's problems. And in spite of what, by PC standards, should be my "fragile emotional condition", I still found the Nike commercial funny as hell. I still like slasher movies and crime movies and the like.
There's not a doubt in my mind that you only want to do right by people. It's just really a pet peeve of mine to see a group that I happen to be a part of being treated like we're made of glass. By and large, we just want to be treated like everybody else. Trust me on this.
To bring this thread marginally back on topic, just compare this to the furor surrounding the recent Agony Booth feature "Snuff" when it was first released. I doubt anyone would say it was ultimately worth it.
-Winnifred Burkle is a monster. A siren, hoping to lure you away from Jasmine and onto the rocks of heresy and despair.- |
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B-Movie Bodhisattiva
Commander
USA
211 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 1:52:53 PM
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Wow! Didn't realize I'd open a can of worms with this one.
I have to say, I do see Scallop's point now. Assulted joggers are nothing to laugh about. But, at the same time, I don't think putting a jogger and a killer from a cheesy slasher flick in the same commercial is somehow promoting violence against women joggers. Something one must also note is that I believe the woman in the role was some kind of professional athlete who was endorsing track shoes. If it were a more recognizable star, like Michael Jordan, I'm sure there'd been less uproar because no one would seriously believe that M.J. was in mortal danger filming a Nike commercial.
I'm just saying that it doesn't really seem worthwhile protesting over. If they really wanted to hurt Nike, they should be protesting over little foreign kids working 12-hour days in overcrowded sweatshops and getting starved and beaten if they mess up the inseams on Junior's Air Jordans.
May you live in interesting times.
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The Screaming Scallop
Commander
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Posted - October 31 2003 : 2:21:27 PM
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No worries. Not a can of worms, just a civil discussion. Things are much nicer here in the Booth than I've experienced elsewhere.
http://www.seanbaby.com/news/nike.htm
Oh, leave it to Seanbaby to make all "sides" (including, by design, his own) look like fools. Funny reading no matter how you feel.
"Sides" is in quotes because, if I recall correctly--and it's been a while--this was really a very minor spat in the World Of Grand Controversy. There were no hunger strikes or death threats or thrown paint or self-immolations, and Nike yanked the ad quickly after a brief half-hearted struggle. The only reason we even remember this is because it was blown out of proportion for the sake of a slow news day, and even Seanbaby is--deliberately--making a bigger deal out of it than is warranted. But at least he's doing it for laughs.
Note: Seanbaby.com is more or less abandoned since Seanbaby sold out and got a real job. (Kidding.) Some links don't work, and some are links to "adult" material. Explore the site, though, funny junk. I love the Superfriends pages and the Hostess ads.
Edited by - The Screaming Scallop on October 31 2003 3:22:57 PM |
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Ed
The Once and Future Genrewriter
USA
2489 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 2:33:54 PM
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I like the Superfriends section as well. There's also some good stuff in the NES section.
"They took your wife away in a balloon? Well you don't need the police pal, you need a psychiatrist!" |
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B-Movie Bodhisattiva
Commander
USA
211 Posts |
Posted - October 31 2003 : 4:26:12 PM
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Seanbaby rocks on toast. Especially his chronicles of "The Further Adventures of Mark Discordia."
Does anyone else no more about why he stopped updating the site?
May you live in interesting times. |
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The Waffle Man
Flakey Pastry
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Posted - November 01 2003 : 04:53:25 AM
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Seanbaby rocks on toast. Especially his chronicles of "The Further Adventures of Mark Discordia."
Does anyone else no more about why he stopped updating the site?
May you live in interesting times.
I'm not really an expert in the secret lore of Seanbaby, but I assume it's because he has other things to do, like writing for a magazine called The Wave. His stuff is here: http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=seanbaby
Strawberries are also edible, but should not be picked in case tiny fairies are using them for hats. Nothing angers the giant fairies quite like people who decapitate the tiny fairies. -Mark Trail |
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Food
Banned Forum Member
USA
716 Posts |
Posted - November 15 2003 : 12:16:57 AM
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Random thoughts on Manos:
Diane Mahree (Maggie) is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
In a modern remake, I can see Roy Scheider as Mike.
The hands on the master's robe were funnier than poop. Even funnier was when Joel spreads his arms to reveal the feet on his.
Make-Out Guy looks like John Rocker.
Whatever reed instrument is heard when Torgo is tying Mike to the pole, it's squealing a bit.
Godawful as this film is, I still think it's better than Red Zone Cuba. |
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Ed
The Once and Future Genrewriter
USA
2489 Posts |
Posted - November 15 2003 : 08:06:01 AM
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Agree with your last point, Food. Then again, most forms of torture are better than Red Zone Cuba.  To balance it out though, the sleaze quotient is just a bit higher in Manos.
"They took your wife away in a balloon? Well you don't need the police pal, you need a psychiatrist!" |
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Scooter Atreides
Chief Rabbit
USA
308 Posts |
Posted - November 19 2003 : 11:10:25 AM
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In a modern remake, I can see Roy Scheider as Mike.
Funny, I would've chosen Michael Douglas.
Well, the man was cheatin'. So I just had to do away with him and that's all there is to it. |
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Food
Banned Forum Member
USA
716 Posts |
Posted - November 19 2003 : 2:51:08 PM
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Hi there, Scoot!
Douglas probably wouldn't be bad. He'd probably be a bit over-the-top when the car wouldn't start, though. |
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Scooter Atreides
Chief Rabbit
USA
308 Posts |
Posted - November 20 2003 : 11:10:47 PM
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Actually, I first thought of Michael Douglas in connection with Manos when I read the story of how the movie was made and realized what a great film the making of Manos itself could be. I saw Douglas in the role of Hal Warren. Given Manos' newfound cult status and the success of films like Ed Wood, I see serious possibilities in this idea. What do you guys think?
Well, the man was cheatin'. So I just had to do away with him and that's all there is to it. |
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Ed
The Once and Future Genrewriter
USA
2489 Posts |
Posted - November 21 2003 : 07:37:51 AM
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I think it could actually work. It would be a very interesting film. Maybe there could be a film centered on the making of Red Zone Cuba. Then you could put them with Ed Wood and have the most bizarre trilogy ever. 
"I want to hurt this movie, but I can never hurt it the way it hurt me." |
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magnoliafan
Ensign
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - November 22 2003 : 9:55:53 PM
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The sad thing is I heard the director seriously thought he was doing an amazing piece of art. Really I heard him say it in interviews.
The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed. I love Stephen King |
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Joe Blowe
Captain
Afghanistan
266 Posts |
Posted - December 02 2003 : 11:41:13 PM
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| Which director: Warren, Wood, or Francis? Food, there was a guy who was remaking "Manos" on a shoestring budget, but I haven't been able to find his site in years. Ed Wood got the biopic because he made more than one film, and he made his movies on the fringes of Hollywood; Warren made one movie in El Paso. I could see maybe a 40 minute documentary, but there just isn't enough material on "Manos" and the arduous shoot to justify a satire movie. Oh, wait, it was done. It's called "The Blair Witch Project." |
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